Discussion:
Bios flash without flasher
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p.mc
2006-01-21 09:55:00 UTC
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Hi

I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file name
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the boot
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the command
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??

It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs problems.

MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
Robert Moir
2006-01-21 10:01:05 UTC
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Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file
name is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the
boot disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get
the command prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just
haven't a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or
install??
You _definately_ need the flash utility program from the motherboard
manufacturer, There is no way to flash the bios without this, and
instructions on how to use it to flash your bios will come with that program
itself.
--
--
Rob Moir, MS MVP
Blog Site - http://www.robertmoir.com
Virtual PC 2004 FAQ - http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/win/VirtualPC2004FAQ.html
I'm always surprised at "professionals" who STILL have to be asked "Have you
checked (event viewer / syslog)".
Pegasus (MVP)
2006-01-21 10:02:47 UTC
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Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file name
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the boot
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the command
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??
It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs problems.
MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
That's a big cross-post for a tiny question . . . What
exactly are the file names you have on your floppy
boot disk?
p.mc
2006-01-21 11:38:08 UTC
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Post by p.mc
Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file name
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the boot
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the command
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??
It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs
problems.
Post by p.mc
MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
That's a big cross-post for a tiny question . . . What
exactly are the file names you have on your floppy
boot disk?
The disk was created using "drdflash" which hasn't put any files on the
boot disk. And I extracted the file "2K0925s.ROM" to it, and that's all
thats on the disk.
I got the flash zip from "PCchips" archives.

p.mc
Alan
2006-01-21 13:16:18 UTC
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Post by p.mc
Post by p.mc
Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file name
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the
boot
Post by p.mc
Post by p.mc
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the
command
Post by p.mc
Post by p.mc
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??
It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs
problems.
Post by p.mc
MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
That's a big cross-post for a tiny question . . . What
exactly are the file names you have on your floppy
boot disk?
The disk was created using "drdflash" which hasn't put any files on the
boot disk. And I extracted the file "2K0925s.ROM" to it, and that's all
thats on the disk.
I got the flash zip from "PCchips" archives.
p.mc
I'd seriously be considering whether I should do this update if I was you.
If you don't properly understand what you are doing - YOU risk making your
computer unusable. Consider getting a knowledgeable friend help, or pay a
computer workshop to do it for you.

Consider if you *need* to upgrade. Does it do something extra that you
really need. Or is it just a case of 'it's newer'. If it doesn't offer
anything you need don't do it.

*If* you decide to go ahead remember damage is *your* risk- *NOT* the
motherboard maker or whoever sold you the motherboard/computer. You may end
up with an unusable machine.

Read the instructions on how to flash the BIOS on their website. Follow
their instructions TO THE LETTER or you may completely disable your
motherboard. Don't try and come up with your own way or mess around. If you
find their website too complicated to navigate to find the utility in the
download area then email their support for help.

If you do attempt it remember just what is happening, and what you are
doing. Record the relevant BIOS settings or you may end up with unusable
devices- things like hard disk parameters (although most use automatic
detection now it is always possible manual parameters have been used that
are different). You may not need them, but ..............
Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
2006-01-21 11:39:34 UTC
Permalink
Try AMI's BIOS flash utility:
http://www.ami.com/support/downloadagreement.cfm?DLFile=support/downloads/amiflash.zip&InpDrvID=90

Note that you need to be 100% sure you have the right BIOS update before
doing this, and that updating the BIOS is not recommended unless there is a
specific fix that you need.
--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file name
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the boot
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the command
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??
It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs problems.
MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
p.mc
2006-01-21 15:50:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Note that you need to be 100% sure you have the right BIOS update before
doing this, and that updating the BIOS is not recommended unless there is a
specific fix that you need.
Hi all, "please bear with me"

The reason I am flashing the bios is because after an upgrade the display
will only stay at 640X480 pixels, and Lowest (4) bit colour quality, and I
have had a similiar event on another machine that a bios flash sorted.

I ran "Ami motherboard ID utility" ...and that gave me the information;

bios build date: jul 15 1995
MOBO Manuf code: 1437
amibios build tag: M583LMR
amibios project id: M583LMR not listed in tag.dat file

smbios info;
manuf: pcchips
prod name: M583LMR
version: 1.0
serial #:00000000

I DL the M583LMR flash zip which had the file containing ..."2k0925s.ROM"

I've now DL AmiFlash as Rick Suggested but if someone could doublecheck with
me before
I commit!!
The file has 2 applications and 2 read me's
AMIFLASH...MS-DOS APPLICATION

AMIFLASH.TXT;
"Must be in dos on boot up
cannot flash within any operating system

run amiflash.com from floppy or hard drive by typing
when prompted to enter

01..."SAVE EXISTING ROM" "Y" OR "N" ***If (Y) can save to hdd or do I have
to put a floppy in***
02..."ENTER BIOS FILENAME"...PATH OF FILE, EXAMPLE (C:\ROMFILE.ROM)
***(in my case C:\2k0925s.ROM)***
03..."PROGRAM BOOTBLOCK" "Y" (YOU MUST SELECT Y)
04..."PRESS Y TO CONTINUE" "Y"
05...AMIFLASH WILL THEN PROCEED TO UPDATE THE FLASH PART.
AFTER SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION, PRESS ANY KEY TO RESTART.

important note
when running amiflash.com do not add rom file name in running program.
just run amiflash.com and enter romfile name during setup of the bios
upgrade.*****(I don't understand this part!! shouldn't I type C:\2k0925s.ROM
at point (02)***

F82741.exe application****(do I not do this one??)*****

Quick flash instructions text;

Quick Flash Instructions For AMI Motherboards:
(FLASH UTILITY NOT REQUIRED)
- Unzip file, copy the "ROM" file to a diskette in "A" drive.
(Diskette does not have to be bootable).
- Make sure you are using the on board floppy controller.
- With system powered off and diskette with "ROM" file in "A" drive.
- Hold down on the "CTRL & HOME" keys and then power on system.
- There will be no video and notice floppy drive being accessed.
- You should hear 1 beep let go of keys.
- Then you will hear 2 beeps and then 3 beeps.
- System should reset and notice new BIOS release date at top of screen.
- Enter BIOS SETUP run the OPTIMAL SETINGS OPTION.
- Change BIOS SETTINGS for your configuration.

"WARNING" etc.etc



Regards
p.mc
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file name
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the boot
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the command
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??
It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs problems.
MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
Jim
2006-01-21 16:31:25 UTC
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Post by p.mc
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Note that you need to be 100% sure you have the right BIOS update before
doing this, and that updating the BIOS is not recommended unless there is
a
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
specific fix that you need.
Hi all, "please bear with me"
The reason I am flashing the bios is because after an upgrade the display
will only stay at 640X480 pixels, and Lowest (4) bit colour quality, and I
have had a similiar event on another machine that a bios flash sorted.
Isn't this a driver issue rather than a BIOS issue? I see that you fixed a
"similar event on another machine" by flashing the bios, but it does not
necessarily mean that flashing the bios fixed the problem.

After the upgrade, did you reinstall the video drivers?
Jim
Post by p.mc
I ran "Ami motherboard ID utility" ...and that gave me the information;
bios build date: jul 15 1995
MOBO Manuf code: 1437
amibios build tag: M583LMR
amibios project id: M583LMR not listed in tag.dat file
smbios info;
manuf: pcchips
prod name: M583LMR
version: 1.0
serial #:00000000
I DL the M583LMR flash zip which had the file containing ..."2k0925s.ROM"
I've now DL AmiFlash as Rick Suggested but if someone could doublecheck with
me before
I commit!!
The file has 2 applications and 2 read me's
AMIFLASH...MS-DOS APPLICATION
AMIFLASH.TXT;
"Must be in dos on boot up
cannot flash within any operating system
run amiflash.com from floppy or hard drive by typing
when prompted to enter
01..."SAVE EXISTING ROM" "Y" OR "N" ***If (Y) can save to hdd or do I have
to put a floppy in***
02..."ENTER BIOS FILENAME"...PATH OF FILE, EXAMPLE (C:\ROMFILE.ROM)
***(in my case C:\2k0925s.ROM)***
03..."PROGRAM BOOTBLOCK" "Y" (YOU MUST SELECT Y)
04..."PRESS Y TO CONTINUE" "Y"
05...AMIFLASH WILL THEN PROCEED TO UPDATE THE FLASH PART.
AFTER SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION, PRESS ANY KEY TO RESTART.
important note
when running amiflash.com do not add rom file name in running program.
just run amiflash.com and enter romfile name during setup of the bios
upgrade.*****(I don't understand this part!! shouldn't I type
C:\2k0925s.ROM
at point (02)***
F82741.exe application****(do I not do this one??)*****
Quick flash instructions text;
(FLASH UTILITY NOT REQUIRED)
- Unzip file, copy the "ROM" file to a diskette in "A" drive.
(Diskette does not have to be bootable).
- Make sure you are using the on board floppy controller.
- With system powered off and diskette with "ROM" file in "A" drive.
- Hold down on the "CTRL & HOME" keys and then power on system.
- There will be no video and notice floppy drive being accessed.
- You should hear 1 beep let go of keys.
- Then you will hear 2 beeps and then 3 beeps.
- System should reset and notice new BIOS release date at top of screen.
- Enter BIOS SETUP run the OPTIMAL SETINGS OPTION.
- Change BIOS SETTINGS for your configuration.
"WARNING" etc.etc
Regards
p.mc
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file name
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the
boot
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Post by p.mc
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the
command
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Post by p.mc
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??
It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs problems.
MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
p.mc
2006-01-22 11:10:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jim
After the upgrade, did you reinstall the video drivers?
Jim
I have no drivers at all
--
Regards
p.mc
Post by Jim
Post by p.mc
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Note that you need to be 100% sure you have the right BIOS update before
doing this, and that updating the BIOS is not recommended unless there is
a
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
specific fix that you need.
Hi all, "please bear with me"
The reason I am flashing the bios is because after an upgrade the display
will only stay at 640X480 pixels, and Lowest (4) bit colour quality, and I
have had a similiar event on another machine that a bios flash sorted.
Isn't this a driver issue rather than a BIOS issue? I see that you fixed a
"similar event on another machine" by flashing the bios, but it does not
necessarily mean that flashing the bios fixed the problem.
Post by p.mc
I ran "Ami motherboard ID utility" ...and that gave me the information;
bios build date: jul 15 1995
MOBO Manuf code: 1437
amibios build tag: M583LMR
amibios project id: M583LMR not listed in tag.dat file
smbios info;
manuf: pcchips
prod name: M583LMR
version: 1.0
serial #:00000000
I DL the M583LMR flash zip which had the file containing
..."2k0925s.ROM"
Post by Jim
Post by p.mc
I've now DL AmiFlash as Rick Suggested but if someone could doublecheck with
me before
I commit!!
The file has 2 applications and 2 read me's
AMIFLASH...MS-DOS APPLICATION
AMIFLASH.TXT;
"Must be in dos on boot up
cannot flash within any operating system
run amiflash.com from floppy or hard drive by typing
when prompted to enter
01..."SAVE EXISTING ROM" "Y" OR "N" ***If (Y) can save to hdd or do I have
to put a floppy in***
02..."ENTER BIOS FILENAME"...PATH OF FILE, EXAMPLE (C:\ROMFILE.ROM)
***(in my case C:\2k0925s.ROM)***
03..."PROGRAM BOOTBLOCK" "Y" (YOU MUST SELECT Y)
04..."PRESS Y TO CONTINUE" "Y"
05...AMIFLASH WILL THEN PROCEED TO UPDATE THE FLASH PART.
AFTER SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION, PRESS ANY KEY TO RESTART.
important note
when running amiflash.com do not add rom file name in running program.
just run amiflash.com and enter romfile name during setup of the bios
upgrade.*****(I don't understand this part!! shouldn't I type C:\2k0925s.ROM
at point (02)***
F82741.exe application****(do I not do this one??)*****
Quick flash instructions text;
(FLASH UTILITY NOT REQUIRED)
- Unzip file, copy the "ROM" file to a diskette in "A" drive.
(Diskette does not have to be bootable).
- Make sure you are using the on board floppy controller.
- With system powered off and diskette with "ROM" file in "A" drive.
- Hold down on the "CTRL & HOME" keys and then power on system.
- There will be no video and notice floppy drive being accessed.
- You should hear 1 beep let go of keys.
- Then you will hear 2 beeps and then 3 beeps.
- System should reset and notice new BIOS release date at top of screen.
- Enter BIOS SETUP run the OPTIMAL SETINGS OPTION.
- Change BIOS SETTINGS for your configuration.
"WARNING" etc.etc
Regards
p.mc
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file name
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the
boot
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Post by p.mc
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the
command
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Post by p.mc
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??
It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs problems.
MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
Alan
2006-01-22 13:12:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by p.mc
Post by Jim
After the upgrade, did you reinstall the video drivers?
Jim
I have no drivers at all
--
Regards
p.mc
Which goes right back to a point made a few times.

Your Video card won't change its capabilities by changing the machines BIOS.

You are at risk of making your machine unusable if something goes wrong with
a BIOS upgrade.

Stop messing around. Get and install your video drivers.

See if the machine does what you want at that stage. If it doesn't then let
us know what it doesn't do that you want, and confirm that the drivers are
installed properly and that you can change the resolution/colours it
displays.
D. Spencer Hines
2006-01-22 13:56:16 UTC
Permalink
Yep.

Changing the BIOS by hand, or at all, without knowing what you are doing
would be insane -- as I stated previously.

Install the video drivers.

Sheeeeeesh!

He has a video problem -- so the first thing he wants to do is flash the
BIOS -- because once upon a time that worked for him on another machine.

P. T. Barnum was right.

DSH
Post by Alan
Post by p.mc
Post by Jim
After the upgrade, did you reinstall the video drivers?
Jim
I have no drivers at all
--
Regards
p.mc
Which goes right back to a point made a few times.
Your Video card won't change its capabilities by changing the machines BIOS.
You are at risk of making your machine unusable if something goes wrong
with a BIOS upgrade.
Stop messing around. Get and install your video drivers.
See if the machine does what you want at that stage. If it doesn't then
let us know what it doesn't do that you want, and confirm that the drivers
are installed properly and that you can change the resolution/colours it
displays.
Steve N.
2006-01-21 16:37:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by p.mc
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Note that you need to be 100% sure you have the right BIOS update before
doing this, and that updating the BIOS is not recommended unless there is
a
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
specific fix that you need.
Hi all, "please bear with me"
The reason I am flashing the bios is because after an upgrade the display
will only stay at 640X480 pixels, and Lowest (4) bit colour quality, and I
have had a similiar event on another machine that a bios flash sorted.
Assumptions in technology are always dangerous...

Unless a BIOS update is _known_ to correct a specific problem it is not
worth the risk, IMO.

I believe you are facing a display adaptor driver issue, not a BIOS
issue, however you did not specify what the "upgrade" was. That would be
salient information in assisting you.

Steve N.
p.mc
2006-01-22 11:14:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by Steve N.
I believe you are facing a display adaptor driver issue, not a BIOS
issue, however you did not specify what the "upgrade" was. That would be
salient information in assisting you.
Steve N.
Fomatted HDD with Win 98 on...And fresh install of WinXP Pro SP2
--
Regards
p.mc
Post by Steve N.
Post by p.mc
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Note that you need to be 100% sure you have the right BIOS update before
doing this, and that updating the BIOS is not recommended unless there is
a
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
specific fix that you need.
Hi all, "please bear with me"
The reason I am flashing the bios is because after an upgrade the display
will only stay at 640X480 pixels, and Lowest (4) bit colour quality, and I
have had a similiar event on another machine that a bios flash sorted.
Assumptions in technology are always dangerous...
Unless a BIOS update is _known_ to correct a specific problem it is not
worth the risk, IMO.
I believe you are facing a display adaptor driver issue, not a BIOS
issue, however you did not specify what the "upgrade" was. That would be
salient information in assisting you.
Steve N.
Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
2006-01-21 16:39:43 UTC
Permalink
I would suggest that you copy the .rom file to the floppy and use that. If
C:\ is formatted as NTFS, then the boot floppy will not be able to read from
it.
--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
Post by p.mc
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Note that you need to be 100% sure you have the right BIOS update before
doing this, and that updating the BIOS is not recommended unless there is
a
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
specific fix that you need.
Hi all, "please bear with me"
The reason I am flashing the bios is because after an upgrade the display
will only stay at 640X480 pixels, and Lowest (4) bit colour quality, and I
have had a similiar event on another machine that a bios flash sorted.
I ran "Ami motherboard ID utility" ...and that gave me the information;
bios build date: jul 15 1995
MOBO Manuf code: 1437
amibios build tag: M583LMR
amibios project id: M583LMR not listed in tag.dat file
smbios info;
manuf: pcchips
prod name: M583LMR
version: 1.0
serial #:00000000
I DL the M583LMR flash zip which had the file containing ..."2k0925s.ROM"
I've now DL AmiFlash as Rick Suggested but if someone could doublecheck with
me before
I commit!!
The file has 2 applications and 2 read me's
AMIFLASH...MS-DOS APPLICATION
AMIFLASH.TXT;
"Must be in dos on boot up
cannot flash within any operating system
run amiflash.com from floppy or hard drive by typing
when prompted to enter
01..."SAVE EXISTING ROM" "Y" OR "N" ***If (Y) can save to hdd or do I have
to put a floppy in***
02..."ENTER BIOS FILENAME"...PATH OF FILE, EXAMPLE (C:\ROMFILE.ROM)
***(in my case C:\2k0925s.ROM)***
03..."PROGRAM BOOTBLOCK" "Y" (YOU MUST SELECT Y)
04..."PRESS Y TO CONTINUE" "Y"
05...AMIFLASH WILL THEN PROCEED TO UPDATE THE FLASH PART.
AFTER SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION, PRESS ANY KEY TO RESTART.
important note
when running amiflash.com do not add rom file name in running program.
just run amiflash.com and enter romfile name during setup of the bios
upgrade.*****(I don't understand this part!! shouldn't I type
C:\2k0925s.ROM
at point (02)***
F82741.exe application****(do I not do this one??)*****
Quick flash instructions text;
(FLASH UTILITY NOT REQUIRED)
- Unzip file, copy the "ROM" file to a diskette in "A" drive.
(Diskette does not have to be bootable).
- Make sure you are using the on board floppy controller.
- With system powered off and diskette with "ROM" file in "A" drive.
- Hold down on the "CTRL & HOME" keys and then power on system.
- There will be no video and notice floppy drive being accessed.
- You should hear 1 beep let go of keys.
- Then you will hear 2 beeps and then 3 beeps.
- System should reset and notice new BIOS release date at top of screen.
- Enter BIOS SETUP run the OPTIMAL SETINGS OPTION.
- Change BIOS SETTINGS for your configuration.
"WARNING" etc.etc
Regards
p.mc
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file name
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the
boot
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Post by p.mc
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the
command
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Post by p.mc
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??
It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs problems.
MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
p.mc
2006-01-22 11:15:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
I would suggest that you copy the .rom file to the floppy and use that. If
C:\ is formatted as NTFS, then the boot floppy will not be able to read from
it.
Thats's what I did after making a floppy using drdflash, but when in DOS
mode I didn't know what to type after the command prompt A:\ I couldn't find
a flash installer utility to help me .
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
Post by p.mc
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Note that you need to be 100% sure you have the right BIOS update before
doing this, and that updating the BIOS is not recommended unless there is
a
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
specific fix that you need.
Hi all, "please bear with me"
The reason I am flashing the bios is because after an upgrade the display
will only stay at 640X480 pixels, and Lowest (4) bit colour quality, and I
have had a similiar event on another machine that a bios flash sorted.
I ran "Ami motherboard ID utility" ...and that gave me the information;
bios build date: jul 15 1995
MOBO Manuf code: 1437
amibios build tag: M583LMR
amibios project id: M583LMR not listed in tag.dat file
smbios info;
manuf: pcchips
prod name: M583LMR
version: 1.0
serial #:00000000
I DL the M583LMR flash zip which had the file containing
..."2k0925s.ROM"
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Post by p.mc
I've now DL AmiFlash as Rick Suggested but if someone could doublecheck with
me before
I commit!!
The file has 2 applications and 2 read me's
AMIFLASH...MS-DOS APPLICATION
AMIFLASH.TXT;
"Must be in dos on boot up
cannot flash within any operating system
run amiflash.com from floppy or hard drive by typing
when prompted to enter
01..."SAVE EXISTING ROM" "Y" OR "N" ***If (Y) can save to hdd or do I have
to put a floppy in***
02..."ENTER BIOS FILENAME"...PATH OF FILE, EXAMPLE (C:\ROMFILE.ROM)
***(in my case C:\2k0925s.ROM)***
03..."PROGRAM BOOTBLOCK" "Y" (YOU MUST SELECT Y)
04..."PRESS Y TO CONTINUE" "Y"
05...AMIFLASH WILL THEN PROCEED TO UPDATE THE FLASH PART.
AFTER SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION, PRESS ANY KEY TO RESTART.
important note
when running amiflash.com do not add rom file name in running program.
just run amiflash.com and enter romfile name during setup of the bios
upgrade.*****(I don't understand this part!! shouldn't I type C:\2k0925s.ROM
at point (02)***
F82741.exe application****(do I not do this one??)*****
Quick flash instructions text;
(FLASH UTILITY NOT REQUIRED)
- Unzip file, copy the "ROM" file to a diskette in "A" drive.
(Diskette does not have to be bootable).
- Make sure you are using the on board floppy controller.
- With system powered off and diskette with "ROM" file in "A" drive.
- Hold down on the "CTRL & HOME" keys and then power on system.
- There will be no video and notice floppy drive being accessed.
- You should hear 1 beep let go of keys.
- Then you will hear 2 beeps and then 3 beeps.
- System should reset and notice new BIOS release date at top of screen.
- Enter BIOS SETUP run the OPTIMAL SETINGS OPTION.
- Change BIOS SETTINGS for your configuration.
"WARNING" etc.etc
Regards
p.mc
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file name
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the
boot
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Post by p.mc
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the
command
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Post by p.mc
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??
It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs problems.
MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
Alan
2006-01-21 21:07:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by p.mc
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Note that you need to be 100% sure you have the right BIOS update before
doing this, and that updating the BIOS is not recommended unless there is
a
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
specific fix that you need.
Hi all, "please bear with me"
The reason I am flashing the bios is because after an upgrade the display
will only stay at 640X480 pixels, and Lowest (4) bit colour quality, and I
have had a similiar event on another machine that a bios flash sorted.
I ran "Ami motherboard ID utility" ...and that gave me the information;
It is unlikely that the computers BIOS is the cause, read the notes that go
with that update- does it say it fixes Display driver issues? It should
advise what the changes are.

Start by getting your graphics card drivers. Install them. Then try and
change the resolution. That process does not have much to do with a computer
BIOS update. It seems from what you have described that you either do not
have your graphics card driver installed, or that it isn't correctly
configured.
D. Spencer Hines
2006-01-21 22:25:06 UTC
Permalink
I see a potential disaster shaping up here.

It's like watching a team of slightly inebriated surgeons on vacation in
Miami telling a layman in Chicago by telephone how to take out his own
appendix.

DSH
Tom [Pepper] Willett
2006-01-21 22:33:41 UTC
Permalink
I see a patronizing troll again.

TPW
Post by D. Spencer Hines
I see a potential disaster shaping up here.
It's like watching a team of slightly inebriated surgeons on vacation in
Miami telling a layman in Chicago by telephone how to take out his own
appendix.
DSH
Alan
2006-01-22 01:32:16 UTC
Permalink
I don't see any advice to the OP from you.

Are you a troll or do you have any help to offer?

It seems the first at the moment so perhaps you should crawl back under your
bridge- unless you can help with the posters question?
Post by D. Spencer Hines
I see a potential disaster shaping up here.
It's like watching a team of slightly inebriated surgeons on vacation in
Miami telling a layman in Chicago by telephone how to take out his own
appendix.
DSH
D. Spencer Hines
2006-01-22 01:46:49 UTC
Permalink
I see a potential disaster shaping up here.

It's like watching a team of slightly inebriated surgeons on vacation for a
conference in Miami telling a layman in Chicago by telephone how to take out
his own appendix.

Trying to flash the BIOS -- WITHOUT the flasher -- by HAND -- when you are
not even sure the BIOS NEEDS flashing -- is a VERY DUMB IDEA.

"Above all, do no harm."

'Nuff Said.

DSH
p.mc
2006-01-22 11:38:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by D. Spencer Hines
Trying to flash the BIOS -- WITHOUT the flasher -- by HAND -- when you are
not even sure the BIOS NEEDS flashing -- is a VERY DUMB IDEA.
"Above all, do no harm."
'Nuff Said.
DSH
Why do you think I am posting here! We all learn by making mistakes, but
with the
kind help from the groups, it might be avoided.
--
Regards
p.mc
Post by D. Spencer Hines
I see a potential disaster shaping up here.
It's like watching a team of slightly inebriated surgeons on vacation for a
conference in Miami telling a layman in Chicago by telephone how to take out
his own appendix.
Trying to flash the BIOS -- WITHOUT the flasher -- by HAND -- when you are
not even sure the BIOS NEEDS flashing -- is a VERY DUMB IDEA.
"Above all, do no harm."
'Nuff Said.
DSH
Tom [Pepper] Willett
2006-01-22 01:57:53 UTC
Permalink
From what I've seen over the past couple of weeks, he is a troll.

Tom
Post by Alan
I don't see any advice to the OP from you.
Are you a troll or do you have any help to offer?
It seems the first at the moment so perhaps you should crawl back under
your bridge- unless you can help with the posters question?
Post by D. Spencer Hines
I see a potential disaster shaping up here.
It's like watching a team of slightly inebriated surgeons on vacation in
Miami telling a layman in Chicago by telephone how to take out his own
appendix.
DSH
Heather
2006-01-22 06:57:52 UTC
Permalink
He is a *disliked denizen* of the mediaeval genealogy news
groups.....patronizing and totally boring. Never thought I would see
him on any help groups.

As he would say...."how amusing".

Cheers....Figgs
Post by Tom [Pepper] Willett
From what I've seen over the past couple of weeks, he is a troll.
Tom
Post by Alan
I don't see any advice to the OP from you.
Are you a troll or do you have any help to offer?
It seems the first at the moment so perhaps you should crawl back
under your bridge- unless you can help with the posters question?
Post by D. Spencer Hines
I see a potential disaster shaping up here.
It's like watching a team of slightly inebriated surgeons on
vacation in
Miami telling a layman in Chicago by telephone how to take out his own
appendix.
DSH
Alan
2006-01-22 13:07:03 UTC
Permalink
Thanks for yours and for Tom's comments- I must have just bypassed/ignored
his last comments. If that was representative of him I do understand why.
Post by Heather
He is a *disliked denizen* of the mediaeval genealogy news
groups.....patronizing and totally boring. Never thought I would see him
on any help groups.
As he would say...."how amusing".
Cheers....Figgs
Post by Tom [Pepper] Willett
From what I've seen over the past couple of weeks, he is a troll.
Tom
Post by Alan
I don't see any advice to the OP from you.
Are you a troll or do you have any help to offer?
It seems the first at the moment so perhaps you should crawl back under
your bridge- unless you can help with the posters question?
Post by D. Spencer Hines
I see a potential disaster shaping up here.
It's like watching a team of slightly inebriated surgeons on vacation in
Miami telling a layman in Chicago by telephone how to take out his own
appendix.
DSH
Stan Brown
2006-01-22 16:06:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Heather
He is a *disliked denizen* of the mediaeval genealogy news
groups.....patronizing and totally boring. Never thought I would see
him on any help groups.
Not just genealogy groups -- I can't remember the whole list of
others in which I'd killfiled him.

I was surprised to see him show up here asking for help, but not
surprised that it took only about three interchanges for him to show
his true colors.
Post by Heather
Post by D. Spencer Hines
I see a potential disaster shaping up here.
It's like watching a team of slightly inebriated surgeons on vacation in
Miami telling a layman in Chicago by telephone how to take out his own
appendix.
DSH
--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
p.mc
2006-01-22 11:33:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan
It is unlikely that the computers BIOS is the cause, read the notes that go
with that update- does it say it fixes Display driver issues? It should
advise what the changes are.
No info with Flash
Post by Alan
Start by getting your graphics card drivers. Install them. Then try and
change the resolution. That process does not have much to do with a computer
BIOS update. It seems from what you have described that you either do not
have your graphics card driver installed, or that it isn't correctly
configured.
That's my next move, you were right the device manager is showing no drivers
installed for;

"Multimedia Audio Controller"
"Multimedia Video controller"
"PCI Simple Communications Controller"
"Video Controller (VGA Compatible)

I don't have any drivers at all, I'll go to MOBO manuf site and DL them (the
sound and video are onboard)


Regards
p.mc
Post by Alan
Post by p.mc
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
Note that you need to be 100% sure you have the right BIOS update before
doing this, and that updating the BIOS is not recommended unless there is
a
Post by Rick "Nutcase" Rogers
specific fix that you need.
Hi all, "please bear with me"
The reason I am flashing the bios is because after an upgrade the display
will only stay at 640X480 pixels, and Lowest (4) bit colour quality, and I
have had a similiar event on another machine that a bios flash sorted.
I ran "Ami motherboard ID utility" ...and that gave me the information;
It is unlikely that the computers BIOS is the cause, read the notes that go
with that update- does it say it fixes Display driver issues? It should
advise what the changes are.
Start by getting your graphics card drivers. Install them. Then try and
change the resolution. That process does not have much to do with a computer
BIOS update. It seems from what you have described that you either do not
have your graphics card driver installed, or that it isn't correctly
configured.
Plato
2006-01-22 04:09:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by p.mc
The reason I am flashing the bios is because after an upgrade the display
will only stay at 640X480 pixels, and Lowest (4) bit colour quality, and I
have had a similiar event on another machine that a bios flash sorted.
Does the new bios address this problem? BTW. I created the drdflash.exe
file.
--
http://www.bootdisk.com/
p.mc
2006-01-22 11:46:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Plato
Does the new bios address this problem? BTW. I created the drdflash.exe
file.
--
http://www.bootdisk.com/
--
"Thanks for the drdflash"
I haven't done the flash yet...(just incase I kill the machine)

Regards
p.mc
Post by Plato
Post by p.mc
The reason I am flashing the bios is because after an upgrade the display
will only stay at 640X480 pixels, and Lowest (4) bit colour quality, and I
have had a similiar event on another machine that a bios flash sorted.
Does the new bios address this problem? BTW. I created the drdflash.exe
file.
--
http://www.bootdisk.com/
Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
2006-01-21 15:14:32 UTC
Permalink
P

One really has to have a clue when flashing BIOS.. without one, there is a
good chance that the motherboard could be lost forever.. I am not being mean
here.. this is simple truth..

I have found a website where you can download the Flash utility.. obviously,
you will need the one marked 'AMINF332.ZIP'..
http://www.rebios.net/biosdown/PCchips.htm

You must first make a bootable diskette, NOT a Win 98 boot diskette.. format
a diskette in XP, and check the box 'make an MS-DOS start-up diskette..

When finished, leave the diskette in the drive, and open the AMINF332.ZIP
file.. running the executable should extract the utility to the diskette..

Now copy the BIOS file to the diskette.. 2K0925s.ROM..

Reboot the computer from the diskette..

Type DIR at the prompt.. you should be able to see the name of the
executable flash utility.. enter the name of the utility and press ENTER..

When asked which file to program, you type the name of the BIOS file in
full, and then just follow on screen instructions..

During that time, you hope and pray for two things.. #1 is that you are
using the correct BIOS upgrade.. #2 is that you don't get a power failure
half way through the process..

There is no such entity as luck.. there is only a choice..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file name
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the boot
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the command
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??
It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs problems.
MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
p.mc
2006-01-22 11:50:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
I have found a website where you can download the Flash utility.. obviously,
you will need the one marked 'AMINF332.ZIP'..
http://www.rebios.net/biosdown/PCchips.htm
"Thanks Mike"
I couldn't find one myself, I'm just going to try and DL some audio and
video drivers foe the MOBO
if that fails I'll try the flash then.
--
Regards
p.mc
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
P
One really has to have a clue when flashing BIOS.. without one, there is a
good chance that the motherboard could be lost forever.. I am not being mean
here.. this is simple truth..
I have found a website where you can download the Flash utility.. obviously,
you will need the one marked 'AMINF332.ZIP'..
http://www.rebios.net/biosdown/PCchips.htm
You must first make a bootable diskette, NOT a Win 98 boot diskette.. format
a diskette in XP, and check the box 'make an MS-DOS start-up diskette..
When finished, leave the diskette in the drive, and open the AMINF332.ZIP
file.. running the executable should extract the utility to the diskette..
Now copy the BIOS file to the diskette.. 2K0925s.ROM..
Reboot the computer from the diskette..
Type DIR at the prompt.. you should be able to see the name of the
executable flash utility.. enter the name of the utility and press ENTER..
When asked which file to program, you type the name of the BIOS file in
full, and then just follow on screen instructions..
During that time, you hope and pray for two things.. #1 is that you are
using the correct BIOS upgrade.. #2 is that you don't get a power failure
half way through the process..
There is no such entity as luck.. there is only a choice..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file name
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the boot
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the command
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??
It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs problems.
MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
p.mc
2006-01-22 13:38:17 UTC
Permalink
Hi All

Anyone know where I can find winxp sound and graphics drivers (onboard) for

(MOBO)M58LMR
(Manufacturer) PCCHIPS
Socket 7

http://www.motherboard.cz/mb/pcchips/M583LMR.htm

I'm finding them more elusive than Bin Laden at the moment.
--
Regards
p.mc
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
I have found a website where you can download the Flash utility..
obviously,
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
you will need the one marked 'AMINF332.ZIP'..
http://www.rebios.net/biosdown/PCchips.htm
"Thanks Mike"
I couldn't find one myself, I'm just going to try and DL some audio and
video drivers foe the MOBO
if that fails I'll try the flash then.
--
Regards
p.mc
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
P
One really has to have a clue when flashing BIOS.. without one, there is a
good chance that the motherboard could be lost forever.. I am not being
mean
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
here.. this is simple truth..
I have found a website where you can download the Flash utility..
obviously,
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
you will need the one marked 'AMINF332.ZIP'..
http://www.rebios.net/biosdown/PCchips.htm
You must first make a bootable diskette, NOT a Win 98 boot diskette..
format
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
a diskette in XP, and check the box 'make an MS-DOS start-up diskette..
When finished, leave the diskette in the drive, and open the
AMINF332.ZIP
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
file.. running the executable should extract the utility to the diskette..
Now copy the BIOS file to the diskette.. 2K0925s.ROM..
Reboot the computer from the diskette..
Type DIR at the prompt.. you should be able to see the name of the
executable flash utility.. enter the name of the utility and press ENTER..
When asked which file to program, you type the name of the BIOS file in
full, and then just follow on screen instructions..
During that time, you hope and pray for two things.. #1 is that you are
using the correct BIOS upgrade.. #2 is that you don't get a power failure
half way through the process..
There is no such entity as luck.. there is only a choice..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file name
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the
boot
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by p.mc
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the
command
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by p.mc
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??
It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs problems.
MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
Richard Urban
2006-01-22 14:23:02 UTC
Permalink
You haven't gone to the manufacturers web site because.................

http://www.pcchips.com.tw/pccweb/index.aspx?MenuID=0&LanID=2
--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
Post by p.mc
Hi All
Anyone know where I can find winxp sound and graphics drivers (onboard) for
(MOBO)M58LMR
(Manufacturer) PCCHIPS
Socket 7
http://www.motherboard.cz/mb/pcchips/M583LMR.htm
I'm finding them more elusive than Bin Laden at the moment.
--
Regards
p.mc
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
I have found a website where you can download the Flash utility..
obviously,
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
you will need the one marked 'AMINF332.ZIP'..
http://www.rebios.net/biosdown/PCchips.htm
"Thanks Mike"
I couldn't find one myself, I'm just going to try and DL some audio and
video drivers foe the MOBO
if that fails I'll try the flash then.
--
Regards
p.mc
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
P
One really has to have a clue when flashing BIOS.. without one, there
is
a
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
good chance that the motherboard could be lost forever.. I am not being
mean
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
here.. this is simple truth..
I have found a website where you can download the Flash utility..
obviously,
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
you will need the one marked 'AMINF332.ZIP'..
http://www.rebios.net/biosdown/PCchips.htm
You must first make a bootable diskette, NOT a Win 98 boot diskette..
format
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
a diskette in XP, and check the box 'make an MS-DOS start-up diskette..
When finished, leave the diskette in the drive, and open the
AMINF332.ZIP
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
file.. running the executable should extract the utility to the
diskette..
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Now copy the BIOS file to the diskette.. 2K0925s.ROM..
Reboot the computer from the diskette..
Type DIR at the prompt.. you should be able to see the name of the
executable flash utility.. enter the name of the utility and press
ENTER..
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
When asked which file to program, you type the name of the BIOS file in
full, and then just follow on screen instructions..
During that time, you hope and pray for two things.. #1 is that you are
using the correct BIOS upgrade.. #2 is that you don't get a power
failure
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
half way through the process..
There is no such entity as luck.. there is only a choice..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file
name
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by p.mc
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the
boot
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by p.mc
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the
command
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by p.mc
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??
It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs problems.
MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
p.mc
2006-01-23 00:54:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Richard Urban
You haven't gone to the manufacturers web site because.................
http://www.pcchips.com.tw/pccweb/index.aspx?MenuID=0&LanID=2
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Forgive me for being ignorant but because what??????????????????
Are you refering to the link I gave to the MOBO specs page and confusing it
with the MOBO Web site?
I know the link you provided, I've been there numerous times!! I just added
the MOBO link to let helpers know the full spec.

Please feel free to elaborate MVP. Please take time to read all the relevant
information before you give a negative, Ha !Ha! youve got it wrong response.

p.mc
Richard Urban
2006-01-23 04:52:55 UTC
Permalink
You didn't say that you had gone to the manufacturers web site and that is
always the very first place you should look. Information "does" help when
you are asking a question, along with ALL of what you have already tried.
This keeps people, who may be trying to help you, from duplicating your
efforts. Had I known that you had already been there, I would not have even
posted the link.

If the manufacturer has dropped support for your ancient M/B there is
nothing much you can do, except hope that someone can send you the drivers
that you need.
--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
Post by p.mc
Post by Richard Urban
You haven't gone to the manufacturers web site because.................
http://www.pcchips.com.tw/pccweb/index.aspx?MenuID=0&LanID=2
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Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Forgive me for being ignorant but because what??????????????????
Are you refering to the link I gave to the MOBO specs page and confusing it
with the MOBO Web site?
I know the link you provided, I've been there numerous times!! I just added
the MOBO link to let helpers know the full spec.
Please feel free to elaborate MVP. Please take time to read all the relevant
information before you give a negative, Ha !Ha! youve got it wrong response.
p.mc
p.mc
2006-01-23 13:20:14 UTC
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Apologies Richard

Long day,late night,alcohol,fed up.
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Regards
p.mc
Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
2006-01-23 05:34:16 UTC
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I will elaborate..

Your computer is too old to support XP.. PCChips gave up on it after the
demise of Windows ME.. BIOS upgrades do not turn an aging Socket 7 board
into anything other than an aging Socket 7 board..

If one can't find reference to a motherboard on the manufacturer website, it
is time to throw it away or resign to using an older OS on it..
DriverGuide.com have Windows 98/ME drivers that 'may' work if you are
desperate to keep it running.. these drivers will NOT work with XP, btw..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
Post by p.mc
Post by Richard Urban
You haven't gone to the manufacturers web site because.................
http://www.pcchips.com.tw/pccweb/index.aspx?MenuID=0&LanID=2
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Forgive me for being ignorant but because what??????????????????
Are you refering to the link I gave to the MOBO specs page and confusing it
with the MOBO Web site?
I know the link you provided, I've been there numerous times!! I just added
the MOBO link to let helpers know the full spec.
Please feel free to elaborate MVP. Please take time to read all the relevant
information before you give a negative, Ha !Ha! youve got it wrong response.
p.mc
Ricky
2006-01-22 15:45:19 UTC
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Maybe something here..
http://www.pcchipsusa.com/download-mainframe.asp
Post by p.mc
Hi All
Anyone know where I can find winxp sound and graphics drivers (onboard) for
(MOBO)M58LMR
(Manufacturer) PCCHIPS
Socket 7
http://www.motherboard.cz/mb/pcchips/M583LMR.htm
I'm finding them more elusive than Bin Laden at the moment.
--
Regards
p.mc
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
I have found a website where you can download the Flash utility..
obviously,
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
you will need the one marked 'AMINF332.ZIP'..
http://www.rebios.net/biosdown/PCchips.htm
"Thanks Mike"
I couldn't find one myself, I'm just going to try and DL some audio and
video drivers foe the MOBO
if that fails I'll try the flash then.
--
Regards
p.mc
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
P
One really has to have a clue when flashing BIOS.. without one, there
is
a
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
good chance that the motherboard could be lost forever.. I am not being
mean
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
here.. this is simple truth..
I have found a website where you can download the Flash utility..
obviously,
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
you will need the one marked 'AMINF332.ZIP'..
http://www.rebios.net/biosdown/PCchips.htm
You must first make a bootable diskette, NOT a Win 98 boot diskette..
format
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
a diskette in XP, and check the box 'make an MS-DOS start-up diskette..
When finished, leave the diskette in the drive, and open the
AMINF332.ZIP
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
file.. running the executable should extract the utility to the
diskette..
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Now copy the BIOS file to the diskette.. 2K0925s.ROM..
Reboot the computer from the diskette..
Type DIR at the prompt.. you should be able to see the name of the
executable flash utility.. enter the name of the utility and press
ENTER..
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
When asked which file to program, you type the name of the BIOS file in
full, and then just follow on screen instructions..
During that time, you hope and pray for two things.. #1 is that you are
using the correct BIOS upgrade.. #2 is that you don't get a power
failure
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
half way through the process..
There is no such entity as luck.. there is only a choice..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file
name
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by p.mc
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the
boot
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by p.mc
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the
command
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by p.mc
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??
It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs problems.
MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
James E Middleton
2006-01-23 09:01:12 UTC
Permalink
You mentioned the BIOS is from 1995, almost 11 years old, that would make
the board 11-12 years old. You also mentioned going from '98 to XP. If that
was the start of the problem, without installing the chipset drivers and
device drivers, that's probably the issue. I'm suprised that there are no
generic drivers on the XP CD that take care of your devices, although I
wouldn't expect to find every chipset driver, there are many generic drivers
in the CD to get you up and running.

To start with, the CD Rom that came with your motherboard. It should have
the drivers for the sound and video. If you can at least get up and running
with those, you'll be in better shape than now. A better fix would be to get
the latest drivers from the manufacturer's site.

As others have mentioned, it's most likely a driver, not a BIOS issue. If
you can get the system running without flashing the BIOS, it'd be better,
since a mistake could be costly. But an 11 year old BIOS...
Post by Ricky
Maybe something here..
http://www.pcchipsusa.com/download-mainframe.asp
Post by p.mc
Hi All
Anyone know where I can find winxp sound and graphics drivers (onboard) for
(MOBO)M58LMR
(Manufacturer) PCCHIPS
Socket 7
http://www.motherboard.cz/mb/pcchips/M583LMR.htm
I'm finding them more elusive than Bin Laden at the moment.
--
Regards
p.mc
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
I have found a website where you can download the Flash utility..
obviously,
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
you will need the one marked 'AMINF332.ZIP'..
http://www.rebios.net/biosdown/PCchips.htm
"Thanks Mike"
I couldn't find one myself, I'm just going to try and DL some audio and
video drivers foe the MOBO
if that fails I'll try the flash then.
--
Regards
p.mc
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
P
One really has to have a clue when flashing BIOS.. without one, there
is
a
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
good chance that the motherboard could be lost forever.. I am not being
mean
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
here.. this is simple truth..
I have found a website where you can download the Flash utility..
obviously,
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
you will need the one marked 'AMINF332.ZIP'..
http://www.rebios.net/biosdown/PCchips.htm
You must first make a bootable diskette, NOT a Win 98 boot diskette..
format
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
a diskette in XP, and check the box 'make an MS-DOS start-up diskette..
When finished, leave the diskette in the drive, and open the
AMINF332.ZIP
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
file.. running the executable should extract the utility to the
diskette..
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Now copy the BIOS file to the diskette.. 2K0925s.ROM..
Reboot the computer from the diskette..
Type DIR at the prompt.. you should be able to see the name of the
executable flash utility.. enter the name of the utility and press
ENTER..
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
When asked which file to program, you type the name of the BIOS file in
full, and then just follow on screen instructions..
During that time, you hope and pray for two things.. #1 is that you are
using the correct BIOS upgrade.. #2 is that you don't get a power
failure
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
half way through the process..
There is no such entity as luck.. there is only a choice..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file
name
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by p.mc
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the
boot
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by p.mc
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the
command
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by p.mc
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??
It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs problems.
MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
Brian A.
2006-01-23 05:38:36 UTC
Permalink
You could try: http://www.driverguide.com/ to see if they have any
newer drivers.
Free registration.
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Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
Post by p.mc
Hi All
Anyone know where I can find winxp sound and graphics drivers (onboard) for
(MOBO)M58LMR
(Manufacturer) PCCHIPS
Socket 7
http://www.motherboard.cz/mb/pcchips/M583LMR.htm
I'm finding them more elusive than Bin Laden at the moment.
--
Regards
p.mc
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
I have found a website where you can download the Flash utility..
obviously,
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
you will need the one marked 'AMINF332.ZIP'..
http://www.rebios.net/biosdown/PCchips.htm
"Thanks Mike"
I couldn't find one myself, I'm just going to try and DL some audio and
video drivers foe the MOBO
if that fails I'll try the flash then.
--
Regards
p.mc
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
P
One really has to have a clue when flashing BIOS.. without one, there
is
a
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
good chance that the motherboard could be lost forever.. I am not being
mean
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
here.. this is simple truth..
I have found a website where you can download the Flash utility..
obviously,
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
you will need the one marked 'AMINF332.ZIP'..
http://www.rebios.net/biosdown/PCchips.htm
You must first make a bootable diskette, NOT a Win 98 boot diskette..
format
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
a diskette in XP, and check the box 'make an MS-DOS start-up diskette..
When finished, leave the diskette in the drive, and open the
AMINF332.ZIP
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
file.. running the executable should extract the utility to the
diskette..
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Now copy the BIOS file to the diskette.. 2K0925s.ROM..
Reboot the computer from the diskette..
Type DIR at the prompt.. you should be able to see the name of the
executable flash utility.. enter the name of the utility and press
ENTER..
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
When asked which file to program, you type the name of the BIOS file in
full, and then just follow on screen instructions..
During that time, you hope and pray for two things.. #1 is that you are
using the correct BIOS upgrade.. #2 is that you don't get a power
failure
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
half way through the process..
There is no such entity as luck.. there is only a choice..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
Post by p.mc
Hi
I need to flash the bios on a WinXP NTFS machine and the flash file
name
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by p.mc
is.."2K0925s.ROM"...
but it doesn't have a flash utility to go with it. I made a boot disk
using..."drdflash"...
Which puts you in pure DOS mode and I extracted the flash file on the
boot
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by p.mc
disk created by drdflash. After re-booting into DOS mode I get the
command
Post by Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Post by p.mc
prompt ..."A:\"... And that's where I'm stumped, I just haven't
a clue what to type to get the file "2K0925s" to run or install??
It took me forever before I realised the probs with XP boot discs problems.
MOBO manufacturer AMIBIOS V1.4
build date: jul,15,1995
build tag: M583LMR
--
Regards
p.mc
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